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Ive bought the Cummins marine CPL1975 /2208 Manuel from SBMar (thank you guys) and started to compile a list of parts and jobs to complete the conversion?? MeridianYachtOwners.com is an independent, worldwide club of Meridian owners. I can not find the 315HP report but the 300 and 330hp reports are both showing 2800RPM rating so here comes some theory. #1 Cummins 6bta 330 hp 09-12-2021, 10:54 AM Hi I am looking at a boat with the 330 cummins with 2000 hours. My wife and I were returning to home port yesterday. Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective, This topic has 8 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated. And I was watching some of these videos and got thinking. Georgia Guest #3 10-10-2012, 02:21 PM Pau Hana wrote: I suspect one of them at least is dodgy, perhaps both. Thanks for sharing. The commentor mentioned that it was the better way to go, as the aftercooler needed no maintenance. Cummins 6BTA5.9-M 370hp Fuel Flow Meter recommendation, Reply To: Aftercooler test without removing. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums Cummins Marine Engines 6BTA Max RPMS & Tach. The Cummins 6BTA 370 in the 25 T Jason is very linear. At WOT, 3,025 rpm and 29+ kt, about 825. I have been following your posts since you bought the boat. As to the long term cost of ownership of this engine compared to it competitors? Thanks everyone for the input so far. I guess you are talking about the big engines of Cummins Marine (above 15 liters), because the smaller engines (mercruiser) are very similar to the yanmar. This engine appears to be a 2800RPM Rated engine. Its all on the Performance sheets which are on the website. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Has anyone else heard this and if so have you changed the pitch on your props? Before this, previous owner was seeing 2830rpms by tach and apparently laser tach too, at about 19 knots. What is the "normal range" of pyro readings??? California Im interested in what you end up doing. Because we cruised at 1200 rpm for 90% of the time we use to push her up to the Cummins recommended max cruise of 2800 rpm every now and then for 10 or 15 minutes for fun, to give the engines a bit of a run at high power checking temps and pressures and clean off the running gear and hull. Some boats will get up and keel walk, and others bow steer, it isn't just how much horsepower is in the boat, but weight distribution and how the boat rides as well. 04-28-2014, 06:06 PM Ok, have a1999 35 Open with cummins 6BTA5.9M3 engines, about 650 hrs on them. I have twin 6bta 370 cummins while at cruse 2600rpm one motor will loose rpm stumbel then return to 2600. . 91. Mercury publishes that 3200 3600 is the recommended cruise range as long as you can hit the WOT range of 4200 4600. Buddy bought a boat. Just for kicks, perhaps remove the air filter on the engine with the higher temps to see if there is any effect? People have been answering, you don't want to hear it I guess. First thing is to verify actual RPM. 1800 rpm (60 Hz ratings) Gross engine output Net engine output Typical generator set output Standby Prime Base Standby Prime Base Standby (ESP) Prime (PRP) Base (COP) kWm/BHP kWm/BHP kWe kVA kWe kVA kWe kVA . Bought the boat late last fall, props on the boat when I picked it up were alter from factory specs of 23x29 3 blade nibral to 23x30. This was there solution to protect the engine from overloadingput a cork under the throttle pedalSame exact engine other than an internal Injection pump calibration.. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Wild Boating my pleasure. I assume based on all my reading here, underpropped is better than overpropped. Saskatchewan And I was watching some of these videos and got thinking. I am wondering if I purchase one with 270 hp motors, what would it take to up the power to 330? Do you have a 408 also? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Wisconsin So at wot he should reach 2800, correct? I do not have Cummin's engines but I have run pyro & boost gages on the last 3 boats with 6 cylinder 4 stroke turbo diesels. You must log in or register to reply here. I am finding boats with both motors, but from what I can see from your site, the block is identical. Somewhere around 1997, Cummins released the M-3 version using the Bosch P7100 fuel system with many other small refinements. 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The cure seems to be to lower the load on the engines by properly propping the boat to the actual load of the boat. JavaScript is disabled. North Carolina . They also made a de-rated 315-330 CPL1975280HP / 2600 RPM. Arkansas Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. Fuel Optimized. Date: 25 January, 2014 - 04:17 PM 25 January, 2014 - 04:17 PM I also have a 31 Duffy with a 370. 1980 - 2023 Seaboard Marine - All Rights Reserved, Viewing 8 replies - 1 through 8 (of 8 total), Complete Seawater Circuit Maintenance Kits, Cummins Graphite Turbo Charger to Exhaust Gasket & Bolt Kit, Aftercooler & Heat Exchanger Maintenance Kits, Early 6BTA 5.9 Diamond Hoses (1.5 Raw Water Hoses), 6CTA 8.3 430/450/480CE Diamond Engine Hoses, USCG Approved Engine & Gear Hydraulic Hoses, USCG Approved High Pressure Hydraulic Oil Lines, EnviroVent Crankcase Ventilation (CCV) Kits, Marine Silicone Exhaust 6 x 8 Reducing Hump Hose, Custom Marine Exhaust Design & Fabrication, Marine 316L SS 4 inch Pipe (4.5" OD) 90 Degree Elbow, Marine 316L Stainless Steel 4 inch Exhaust Pipe (4.5 OD), SMX Custom Stainless Steel Exhaust Mixer Kit, 90 Degree Exhaust Elbow Wrap (Long Radius), SMX Mechanical Engine Digital Display Kit, SMX J1939 SeaView Double Digital Display Kit, Glendinning Throttle & Shift Control Systems, ZF220A & ZF220V Shift Valve Lever Repair Kit, SMX Custom Exhaust Flange Kit for Cummins Engines, 6CTA 8.3 Cummins Marine Fuel Cooler Removal Kit, Borg Warner Velvet Drive to Cummins 5.9 HD Adapter Kit, Commercial Marine Hydraulic Pumps & Equipment, PetroWrap Anti-Corrosion Tape (2 in. Colorado Country: USA. 1500 (50 Hz) Prime Power. Michigan We got about 2500 today, but we know the bottom wasnt clean. I am currently looking to purchase a bayliner in the age of 1998 2002, preferably a 4087. I havent run it up further because until yesterday I wasnt sure if Tach was accurate or not, but it *feels* like I have a fair amount of throttle leftId guess 200-300rpm. Does the 330 use different valve springs and lifters? Reduce the fuel to air ratio, higher EGT, increase fuel to air, lower EGT. 12-01-2016, 01:58 PM Our 4788 with 315hp Cummins (6bta5.9 M-2) has engine serial number stamps that says 2800 RPM. 6BT5.9-DM. The B5.9 engine has established an unrivalled reputation for reliability, incorporating features designed to maximise engine integration within OEM installation. As far as I know the 250 SWAC was 99% Bayliner specific but you never know if there are others out there, RTOs, etc. Yep, pitch, diameter, and number of blades to take advantage of the new HP, that is basic Now back to the question? You are using an out of date browser. Feb 18, 2023 I have two 370HP 5.9 12V motors in my boat. http://www.cumminsbih.com/pdf/6bta59m.pdf, Propping a Cummins Mechanical Diesel Engine - Seaboard Marine, Engine Life vs. Engine Loading - Seaboard Marine, Continuous Duty - A Different Perspective - Seaboard Marine, Portsmouth NH.. Piscataqua and Merrimack Rivers, http://[URL]http://www.cumminsbih.com/pdf/6bta59m.pdf. Thank you all. Oil Coolers & Manifolds Instrument Panels Lift Pumps Marine Descaler Onboard Cruise Kits Perkins Overhaul Kits. 1) The aftercooler design is the biggest difference between the engines.. 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When both engine are set up right, both carry the same props, so up to . #1 Joe foresta Deckhand Joined Oct 9, 2019 Posts 53 Likes 45 Age 72 Location Long Island Boat Make Levy 32 I have been getting conflicting answers regarding cruising rpm for my 330b Cummins. Thanks Tony, I really appreciate the info. I do remember reading in another post about the different aftercooler in the 270. The Cummins marine version of the 6CTA 8.3 has evolved through many versions and horsepower ratings since it was released in the early 1990s (about 24 years ago) as a 6CTA 8.3M-1 300C, but all of them still share the same basic base engine specs: The engine is an In-line 6 using a Bosch or Nippon Denso mechanical inline injection pump, 8.3 liters or 504 cu inches (1.38 liters per cylinder), 4.49 Bore x 5.32 Stroke (114mm x 135MM), 1-piece head, 2 valves per cylinder, Mid-stop wet liners for a very easy rebuild, and generally a very simple design with robust construction throughout that has allowed the engine to be used in many demanding industrial markets besides marine. Cummins 6BTA5.9-M 370hp Fuel Flow Meter recommendation, Reply To: Aftercooler test without removing. Just to be clear, the JWAC is the 260.270s, and the SWAC is the 330? We were propped for 2900+. Location: Long Island, NY. I believe you are correct. 2) The 270 CANNOT be uprated. I believe the 30,000 gallon number originated with Tony A. and interestingly if you divide the max RPM (3,000) burn rate of (20 gal/hr) provided by Cummins into the 30,000 number you get 1,500 hours. Thank you for the insight and I appreciate you taking the time share about the duty cycles. Since my changes, tach is showing 3100rpm at 20 knots before I back it off (so assume 250-ish off that2850). New York Earlier Cs were called 350 & 400s and were M-2s that used the ND EP9 fuel injection pumps. Currently, we are cruising our 1997 Tiara Express with 6CTA 8.3 Diamonds from Florida to Maine. How much difference is there between the 370 and 315 hp versions of the 6BTA? a few $grandor 55 hp depending on what you were asking. I cruise at 21-21 at the end of the season with a dirty bottom, but I don't burn anywhere near 11 gph per. That saidwhat is the upper limit of a reasonable cruise RPM if my WOT is 2950? Shoot for an easy 2,900 for the 330Bs. The Cummins B Series is a family of diesel engines produced by American . For interested Cummins motorhead readers. 2830rpms at WOT via laser tach, 19-19.5 knots. -Went from 4 dry exhaust to 6 wet exhaust to muffler and 5 from muffler to stern 2019 2500 CCSB Delmonico Red- Y78 Complete, Tuned, Solid Roller Lifter Conversion with Wagler Stage 1 Cam. Location: Oxnard, CA. North Dakota Western Australia. Here is a basic question. 1000 sounds a little high, 600 way low for a 330 running at 2400. It was a total disaster. Assuming it was propped correctly, what would the upper end RPM at cruise be for this motor? You must verify those tachs or this is all for naught. The 315/330 has a minimum rated RPM of 2800 vs the 260.270s 2600 RPM When both engine are set up right, both carry the same props, so up to 2600 RPM or so, the same vessel would perform the same. That is very helpful. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Utah Good idea. I don't make a habit of running the engines at WOT but it's good to know that if I hit those rpm's for a couple seconds, it probably won't be the end of the world based on what I have now read. **Notice that double asterisk on the RPM I listed for the recreational engines. I have been getting conflicting answers regarding cruising rpm for my 330b Cummins. South Australia Cummins 6BTA 5.9 Marine Diesel Engine - ReCon HP 330 kW 246 RPM 2800 PDF Downloads: Brochure Installation Performance About Cummins ReCon Engines Built to meet or exceed your engine's original specifications for performance, reliability and durability Fully remanufactured according to Cummins five-step remanufacturing process 6,526 Location Clinton Harbor Boat Make 35' Bruno & Stillman Basic rule of thumb answer: 80% of 3000 RPM is 2400 RPM. 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